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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:32 pm 
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I realized that at least a good portion of my garden area has landscaping fabric a few inches under the soil. I have hardly seen any worms at all, so I was wondering if the fabric prevents them from coming up to the surface, or from going down as deep as they need to. I was going to try not tilling this year, but if I don't have worms, that will probably not work very well. So should I remove the fabric and till anyway this year?


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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 6:44 am 
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A good worm specie candidate to use on your situation are Eisenia Foetida or Red Wiggler worms because of their Epigeic characteristics meaning they live just right under the soil's surface, not burrowing more than 5 inches from the soil's surface. They are very hardy worms that are really the composting/gardening worm choice of gardeners and farmers.

Here are some helpful articles about them:

http://hubpages.com/hub/Backyard-Garden ... gler-Worms

http://hubpages.com/hub/Red-Wiggler-Com ... Composting


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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 2:07 am 
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I don't think they do well under it since it blocks the organic matter that they need, at least that's what I see where I've used it. Bare soil has debris breaking down on it all the time, but with landscape fabric, it would break down on top of the fabric and the worms wouldn't be able to get to it. I hope that makes sense since I'm 1/2 asleep.


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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 6:46 pm 
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Gophers, moles and other rodents LOVE landscape fabric. If you lift the stuff in an area where it has been for a while you will find a warren of tunnels. I've learned to dislike the stuff for that reason.

Also, plants roots will easily reach 3-4 feet laterally from the base of the plant, which probably includes much of this area in your garden. If it's relatively unfertile soil under landscape fabric, the roots won't get much there, but if it's nicely mulched soil they will.

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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 1:49 am 
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I've seen that moles like it underneath it too. They tunnel right under the soil surface. I don't use it any more either after seeing all the activity under it. Maybe worms congregate under it more than I think they do.


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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:13 pm 
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Here is a drawing of a tomato plant's root system on July 1 in Oklahoma
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Something to think about when considering where your plants are getting their food and water from - could be farther away than you think.

That was from http://www.soilandhealth.org/01aglibrar ... 7ch26.html one of the most interesting pieces of garden reading I've found recently.

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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 12:23 pm 
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Interesting article. Thanks! I haven't read the whole thing yet, though.


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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 2:28 pm 
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I just read it for the pictures. ;)

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