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 Post subject: Reaching my breaking point
PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:49 pm 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:32 am 
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heck no foxy! even though i'm not a frequent vet visitor, i have gone through three vets with salish. i am with you on how irritating it is to have a vet milk you for your money--so after the first time when my vet obliquely mentioned they wanted to do this and such without informing me that it was a te$t, i now tell the vet before we begin that i would like them to tell me when something is going to cost me money. when they tell me they're going to do something, i ask if it's necessary (geez, a cortisone shot for a minor ear infection???).
what i want is an old fashioned vet that isn't afraid to be hands-on. (okay, so he's a big shepherd that doesn't like his ears poked into, i'm assuming that's not uncommon. shouldn't they know how to deal with it??) i want a vet that doesn't advise unneccessary shots, pills, medication or tests. and i want one that will patiently sit when i ask them what must seem to them to be mundane questions. parsimony, dammit! honestly, unless there's something wrong with salish, i won't be taking him into the vet. i opt to go to the low cost shot clinic because not only are the shots cheaper, but they give me as much attention as most vets. luckily, someone has recommended a vet that seems to meet my requirements, so if need to go in the future, at least i have a lead.
with that being said, i think it's definitely time for you to go vet shopping. good luck!

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:02 am 
YOU NEED A NEW VET ASAP!

That's a big pile of bullyouknowwhat you're getting there. I know I wouldn't stand for it - & my vet wouldn't even DREAM of treating me that way, because then he'd lose the gazillion dollars a year he's making off me just for reasonable stuff - lol!!

Really - talk to other folks & see if you can get recommendations. Another thing I did when we first moved here & I needed to find a vet was to take an animal in just for the usual "wellness" exam & annual shots. I was able to get an initial "feel" for the place without it being a life-or-death emergency.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:11 am 
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I think you should look for a new one, one who respects you and your pets.

Mine will always explain what she thinks needs to be done, then ask if I want it done and tells me the cost of it. She doesn't lecture me about shots and she will learn from me too. Only problem is she is on the other side of town and none of our critters like car rides. :roll:

You could go hang out around some vet offices and ask people what they think of the vet, or ask at a pet store.
Good luck!!


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:00 pm 
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Thank you! I was afraid I was being overly critical.

Ming, there must be something about shepherd ears. I went through hell with Sambuca's ears. Watch out for the yeast infections that can look a lot like common ear infections.

Breezy, you would think with all the money I have spent at my vet on my aging kitties and on the kitten they wouldn't want to loose me. I guess since my older kitties are now gone, the kitten is through that costly first year and the twins are at that age where they aren't likely to be costly I don't rank with this vet anymore. I need to find a vet who looks at the long haul.

luv2grdn really, a vet that learns from you! Keep a good hold of that one. I can sympathize with the car trip, Dana doesn't do well with traveling. That is why the vet had a shot at another stool sample.

I have already been through one vet in this area. They were the most highly recomended vet. For the life of me I can't understand why. They didn't check my cats ears or eyes. When my one cat was suffering from ear mites they weren't at all concerned, but they were all over my other cat's skin problem. They insisted it was ring worm even though I told them it was just a Fall allergy. After testing they discovered I was right. They weren't at all concerned about a very disturbing lump on one cat's belly (that ended up being the cancer that killed her), but they were determined to do surgery on my other cat's harmless cyst. Needless to say they became history fast!

My options in this area don't seem to be good. I did find a vet during that panicked morning when we had to get Bailey put down. Everyone there seemed to be nice. The vet explained the procedure and told me that the first shot tended to be uncomfortable for the animal and that they normally did that one in the other room. When I requested that they do the whole procedure with me present and that I understood she might react unplesantly to the first shot, the vet agreed. This office has a website and I decided to check it out. They have four vets and two of them specialize in feline medicine. One of my concerns is that they might be very over priced. Would it be tacky to send them an email with a request for prices on basic treatments like shots and wellness exams? Another concern is that they are in Maryland. Does anyone know if shot requirements are different in PA vs. MD? Or any way I can look this information up?

One other question. During my search last night I discovered some sites that let you rate vets you have been to. No one has rated my soon to be ex-vet. Should I rate them and let the world know? Should I wait until I find another vet?

Thanks!

Foxy.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:52 pm 
As far as publically "rating" the soon-to-be-ex vet, I'd steer clear of that. Regardless of how you feel about them, it's never a good idea to burn veterinary bridges. Even if you stop using them for regular stuff, you never know when you might need them in the event of an emergency.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:19 am 
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it's past time to find another vet! any time you feel uncomfortable and it becomes a consistant thing (as in, it's not just a matter of someone having a bad day and not able to hide it) it's time to look elsewhere.

pushing tests and meds and other treatments are also all valid reasons to go elsewhere.

i took my other cat in for a checkup - new vet for me and this is a cat's only vet. she wasn't doing well and hadn't been for some time. she was 17, so i took most of what had been going on to be clearly age-related. a couple things had changed, so she needed to be seen. after a physical exam which showed one kidney was almost completely gone and the other one was smaller than it should be, they wanted to run almost $300 worth of blood work to find out 'what was the matter'.

uhh, hello??? she's 17! kidney failure is something not unexpected at that age.

the doc got mad at me and acted like i was mistreating my baby because i refused to do any testing.

i brought her home and let her live out her life in as much comfort and with as much spoiling as i could provide. when the day came (six months later) that she needed help to leave, i took her to a different vet for that assistance.

i did call them for pricing to fix/declaw rusty when he showed up a couple of years later - they wanted $350 for that (for a neuter, not a spay and the declaw)...the other vets in the immediate area wanted between $200 and $250. i found another vet, a little further away, that charged only $175...so, obviously, i went there. and good for me as, when i got ferrets, because that practice does exotics - they're the only one in this area (40 mile radius) that does.

i can't say enough good things about all of them either. from the people at the front desk to all the docs (over a dozen) to the techs. great people who genuinely care about the animals. yes, they do want to make a profit...they don't gouge you and they don't do unnecessary treatments or tests.

my neighbor has a sick 13 year-old. he's going to that cat vet...he's spent a fortune (almost 10k) in the past year with meds, tests, special diet purchased at the vets and the cat isn't any better. he's just in a holding pattern and my neighbor's life completely revolves around medicating this cat - i'm talking 6 different meds every day. all at different times; some with food; some without. and he's taking the cat in for weekly visits...

i'm all for doing what you need to and treating a condition. this vet is just making a ton of money here and the poor animal is no better off. ibd isn't anything all that involved (if that really is the issue). i feel for him and i've tried, in a gentle way, to get him to see he's being ripped off. he kind of realizes it...still he wants to do his best for his pet and i can't fault that. i just wish he'd go somewhere else for a second opinion.

i would not do anything like a rating - unless you can do it anonymously, that is. you never know when you're going to have a situation and need thier services.

as for the charge on the credit card, dispute it through the issuing bank. if you clearly stated you only wanted one test done and they did two and charged you for it, then they are at fault and you shouldn't have to pay for it.

good luck in finding another vet!!


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:01 am 
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Oh the rating would be anonymous and honest. I wouldn't cut them down for wanting to give shots that I don't feel are necessary. I know not everyone feels the way I do about over doing it on prevenitave shots.

The bill was payed with a check. Due to all the confusion at the time I didn't discover the over charge until Saturday. It is only $14, I can get over that. My problem is that I was ignored repeatively when I told them not to test more then one sample.

To all who are against declaw please forgive me for what I'm about to say. I had my reasons for both cats I did this to.

Joclyn, I just looked up what I payed for declaws and castrations. For Fox the total bill was $80 at the horrible vet. Although I must give credit where credit is due, they did a beautiful job on him. Teddy's bill was $194.86. Remember he was required to stay a longer time so some of that is extra board costs. Teddy's declaw results were not so favorable. He ended up taking longer to heal and had to go back for more meds. He doesn't seemed to be at all bothered by the end results, but I am. Knowing what I know now, I would still of had him declawed, but not by that vet. More expensive doesn't mean better results so I have to agree with you, $300 sounds out of line.

Foxy.


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Foxy,
You need to learn how to give your own shots and deworming. I pay about $20 for 5 in 1 with leuc. I give it myself, everyone's happy. Nobody has to go in the car, or stay around dogs, etc. Nor do they have exposure to strange and foreign cats. Just keep a record of when you gave them, and vet should have no problem.

I only have two cats left and 5 kittens, cute as a button, but they will find a good home in a few weeks. My two girls are adjusting to house life. They are doing a lot better than I am, to be exact.

I remember when I had to have my chihuahua put down at only one year old. She started to hemorage and couldn't walk all within the span of a few hours. My vet let me pay installments. It cost me over $350 just to find out it would cost over $1000 at Stanford, and no guarantee of recovery. They explained to me that I either needed to put her down, let her suffer, or take her to a specialist. I had to put her down, since I was unemployed with a 6 month old baby. I was crushed.

When I lost my goat, they decided not to give her a c-section, they send a sympathy letter. Do I blame them? Not really. They have done all my emergencies, and never made me pay up front, but in installments.

Thankfully, I have taken a few emergency vet tech classes so I can do most of my own medications and procedures. I haven't needed a vet for a long time.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:52 am 
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You need to learn how to give your own shots and deworming.


I can give shots...heck I can even give IV fluids, but by law I can not give rabies shots. My cats get rabies shots every year since the every three year shot is not as safe. I also feel better knowing a vet has checked my kitties over once a year. I can spot many problems myself, but I can't tell if they are developing an irregular heart beat, have developed worms etc...

And BTW, are you going to share pictures of the latest bunch of kittens? You know how I love to awwww over kittens.

Foxy.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:57 am 
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I have to say I'm not a big fan of rabies shots, especially for inside animals. CA uses rabies shots as a way to tell how many animals you have, and frankly, it's none of their business how many animals I have. All animals (not just dogs) who have had a rabies shot go into a registry. I had a boss who owned a grooming shop, she got a visit from animal regs and almost shut down because her dog's rabies tags had expired, the dog had been dead for over 3 years! Apparantly if you have a dog with tags you have to notify them when the animal dies.

Anyway, I'll try to get a picture soon, my camera broke so am having to rely on the cell phone. It does not take good inside pictures. They just now decided they were going to use the box. I can give a huge sigh of relief. No more running to the box with kitten in hand 5 times in a row! All are various degrees of b/w not as white as Pretty Girl but one comes pretty close. One may even have odd eyes like mama, not sure yet because their eyes haven't changed colors yet, but should in a couple weeks. Another has a skunk stripe, lol. They will easily find a home :)

PS I have another baby dove, I just wish I knew who the daddy was :?


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