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 Post subject: Montana 'rubens' hardiness
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 11:43 pm 
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Has anyone been able to grow Clematis montana 'rubens' in Zone 5a or b?

I never considered trying it here (Durham, NH with frequent 0-10 below nights, and some winters -15F.), but I just noticed that Michael Dirr rates it hardy to Zone 5. Maybe a typo?

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Rubens will survive in zone 5 but will suffer severe dieback in harder winters and will usually lose the flowering potential over each winter. It sets its buds the year before.
Since it is vigorous, it will make a fine comeback even after bad winters. If you select one with nice foliage (Mayleen, Freda), you may enjoy it for that. or, if you're ambitious, you could lay it down and cover it as some northern gardeners do with roses and wine grapes. Lots of work. The last possibility is to find the most sheltered location on your property and give it a try.
Grandiflora, a white flowered selection, is considered the hardiest of the montanas.

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I agree with Dan. I know of several people who grow montanas, even Rubens, in zone 5 and they do well and flower but if you have a severe winter they can get killed back to the ground or have the flower buds freeze off and not get any blooms. I think the trick is finding a microclimate in your garden that will offer protection and hoping for the best. Trial and error in the marginal zones is the best way to find out if it will work for you or not.

Here is a thread on Garden Web where a lady is growing Rubens in zone 4 and it flowered for her. Just realize one bad winter can knock it back down to the ground.

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/clematis/msg051641134475.html?20

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Thanks to both of you for the input. I'll think I'll try one in a protected location just outside the kitchen, on a trellis facing east-southeast. Two other questions I have...

1) I doubt I can find one locally, so could you suggest a good mail order source?

2) A nearby nursery had a new shipment of clematis, and without checking on hardiness beyond the plant tag, or even preparing the site, I couldn't resist buying 'Will Goodwin.' How do you think that one will do in zone 5a?
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Dan, who orginally posted on this thread is the owner of Brushwood Nursery and owns this forum. He sells great clematis as well so why not order from him?

Here is a link to the listing for montana Rubens on his nursery site.

http://www.gardenvines.com/catalog/clematis-montana-rubens-p-44.html

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nckvilledude wrote:
Dan, who orginally posted on this thread is the owner of Brushwood Nursery and owns this forum. He sells great clematis as well so why not order from him?

Here is a link to the listing for montana Rubens on his nursery site.

http://www.gardenvines.com/catalog/clematis-montana-rubens-p-44.html


Will Goodwin should be hardy in your zone.

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I grow Clematis montana 'Mayleen' from Brushwood. The fragrance is intoxicating...... such a wonderful scent drifted through the garden for weeks. If there were a perfume to match that scent, I'd be first in line to purchase it.

Perhaps a wall next to a house, a courtyard setting, would provide enough shelter.

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