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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:23 am 
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Planted some flower mix last year and this perennial has come back in dominant fashion.
i just do not know what it is. I may have a good shot when it blooms but I thought someone may recognize it.

Thanks, Tim :D


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:22 pm 
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Looks healthy enough.... and the flowers are coming along..... but I have no idea on the ID.

:oops: I can't tell you how many times I've nursed along a super healthy weed... even kept it after it bloomed since I had so much time invested!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:39 pm 
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Come to find out it was a Biennial called "Damesrocket"

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:33 pm 
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Very nice, sure beats what I usually end up with!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:59 pm 
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Are you sure about this id? I really don't think it is Dame's Rocket.

We have had lots of Dame's Rocket (identical to the second picture you posted) for many years, in several color variants. We let it go wherever it is until it flowers, and later pull it up where it is in the wrong place. Very pretty.

But the first photo you posted doesn't look like Dame's Rocket the way this plant grows here. We are in SE MI. You are in Evanston IN. Not that far apart. Here. the leaves are not *nearly* as heavy and thick, and are in low rosettes. As the flower stalk develops, there are leaves along it, but again, in no way near as large, thick and heavy, and they are much smaller than those in the initial rosette. The upper leaves shown in the second photo are what is normal. And the flower buds don't develop until the stalk is longish, with the smaller leaves along the flowering stalk. Then, we see the clusters of flower buds developing.

Anyways, keep your options open. I think this plant is something else. I would be interested to find out what. I looked at this picture when you first posted it and went..... "What on earth is that? No idea!" And wandered quietly away.... :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:01 am 
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The leaves have thinned out a lot. it has not grown any taller but has bloomed like crazy.
The seeds were purchased from a company in Vermont
Here is a picture of the same plant as the first photo

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:53 pm 
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The latest picture sure looks like it... Dames Rocket around here usually gets 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 feet tall before the flower stalks begin to bloom out. May very well be a shorter variant of Dame's Rocket. Didn't know there was such a thing... Thanks for letting me know!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:06 pm 
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Well, actually...... I lied :roll:

It is taller since it started blooming.
After the last rain it really jumped up.


........ then they fell over from the heavy rain :D

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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 5:13 pm 
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Then it does look like that's what they are. We like them. As the genes reshuffle, we get purple, lavender, white, and almost a white/lavender variegated. We let them set seed, and then pull out any that are in the wrong place. Congrats!

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